Completed Portraits: British 16th and 17th C 31 comments Is this a portrait of James II? Who is the artist?
Photo credit: Nottingham City Museums & Galleries
Isn't this sitter James II, when he was Duke of York? One can glimpse the edge of a blue garter sash on the lower left.
But can anyone pinpoint the portrait type, and artist?
Nottingham City Museums and Galleries comment: 'There are no clues on the back of the frame or the stretcher. An early catalogue card calls the picture a "pseudo portrait". It does not look like the fine work of a commissioned royal portrait painter, nor a 17th century work. Maybe there is an original source out there somewhere...'
The collection states that the work was originally donated by Earl Manvers in 1878. It was thought to be an image of Colonel Hutchinson. This seems to have been quickly refuted and there is no paper trail recording this.
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Do you agree that the age of the sitter is between 20-30 years old? If the portrait was of James, Duke of York, then the portrait would have been painted between ca. 1653-1663.
The period of 1652-1658 saw James employed with first, the armies of France, then Spain. Portraits taken during this period could have been executed in either country.
When I compare the sitter under discussion to other paintings of James II, Duke of York between ca. 1653-1663, a prominent dimple on his chin is missing, e.g.,
http://prints.dulwichpicturegallery.org.uk/image/816607/artist-greenhill-john-james-ii-as-duke-of-york
At the time of his appointment as High Lord Admiral ca. 1660, the dimple is obscured:
https://www.kingandmcgaw.com/prints/henri-gascars/portrait-of-james-duke-of-york-1633-1701-as-lord-high-admiral-211474#211474::media:1_size:344,400
Note that this portrait does include the pencil moustache (an artifact of his time on the Continent?), which may help to pinpoint the date of the portrait under discussion.
Only one year later ca. 1661, as James settled into his role in the Navy, the demeanor is more masculine and the moustache is gone, e.g.,
http://www.vam.ac.uk/users/node/2036
In all three examples of known portraits shown by Patty the most prominent feature in my view is the protruding lower lip, reminiscent of the Hapsburg lip, although not nearly so pronounced. Does the portrait in consideration show this?
For comparison, other portraits of James, Duke of York as High Lord of the Admiralty:
After Peter Lely...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/james-ii-16331701-as-duke-of-york-and-lord-high-admiral-99863
By Peter Lely...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Lely#/media/File:Sir_Peter_Lely_-_James_VII_and_II,_when_Duke_of_York,_1633_–_1701_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg
I was unfamiliar with the symbolism of the pink sash, but I read that it indicates high military rank in the Spanish Court (I do hope someone can provide more specific information), e.g.,
Various portraits of Phillip IV, e.g.,
http://www.wikigallery.org/wiki/painting_373045/(after)-Diego-Rodriguez-De-Silva-Y-Velazquez/Portrait-Of-King-Philip-IV-Of-Spain-(1605---1665)
http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/(after)-Diego-Rodriguez-De-Silva-Y-Velazquez/Portrait-Of-The-Infante-Baltasar-Carlos,-Son-Of-Philip-IV-And-Isabella-Of-Bourbon.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equestrian_Portrait_of_Prince_Balthasar_Charles#/media/File:Velázquez_-_Príncipe_Baltasar_Carlos_(Museo_del_Prado,_1634-35).jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_I_d'Este,_Duke_of_Modena
A portrait of James and Anne Hyde ca. 1660, including pink sash and plain cravat...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_II_of_England#/media/File:James_II_and_Anne_Hyde_by_Sir_Peter_Lely.jpg
I agree it looks like a blue Garter sash, lower left. No dimple in the Gascars of 1672-3, which is very like
http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/james-duke-of-york-16331701-174649
but rather more dimple in Cooper (roughly same date)
http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/42138.html
which also suggests his eyes were blue....so what is the consensus on that?
What color is that sash? James, was named Duke of Albany (December 1660). If the sash is orange, perhaps it is an early reference to designs for the "Duke's Colony" in North America (i.e., Fort Orange).
Ca. 1668-1670 (after the surrender of New Netherland in 1664), the sash/drapery is definitely orange.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Hyde#/media/File:The_Duke_and_Duchess_of_York_with_their_two_daughters..jpg
Is it James II? Yes. Briefly considered the Old Pretender, given that Bendor is the questioner, but no.
What is it based on? I agree with other commenters who suggest a model of the 1650s or 60s. Maybe this is a copy from the very early 18th century, knocked out for the saleroom, of an early continental portrait or engraving after such?
I wondered if the manner of the parting of the hair could give some clue as to the origin of the painting from which this comes, or where the copy was made or who did it? For it looks so deliberately stylised, I wonder if similar treatments are out there which could serve as useful comparisons.
Anyway, the work of a copyist? For instance, the cravat is poorly painted. An actual sight of it and careful scrutiny might reveal more poorly painted parts.
I wonder whether it might be a copy of a (lost) JM Wright - obviously with details like the cravat simplified.
The colour of the sash is the same as for other Royalists in portraits from the 1640s onwards, isn't it (cf Dobson images among others).
Most intriguing to me is the flattened imitation 'stone' oval. That is something which is quite commonplace in mid-17th century French portraits, and circulated widely in engraved copies of paintings, or engravings intended to look like painting reproductions - a good example of the latter is Wallerant Vaillant's self-portrait engraving (with mezzotint) in the British Museum Dept of Prints and Drawings collection. Painted ovals are pretty ubiquitous, of course, but this particular style of oval is very frquently found in French portraits of the 1640s-70s.
Am not altogether convinced this is James. Compared with other images of him of presumably around the same date - the Greenhill at Dulwich and, say, the attributed to Luttichuijs at Fenton House, this chap's lacking the familiar, lugubrious features. There's something bright-eyed, almost smiling about this sitter.
Please consider whether the painter could have been Adriaen Hanneman (1603-1671).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adriaen_Hanneman#/media/File:Henry,_Duke_of_Gloucester.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/King_Charles_II_by_Adriaen_Hanneman.jpg
https://www.nationalgalleries.org/media/38/collection/2012AA45612.jpg
http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/mary-16311660-princess-royal-and-princess-of-orange-188583
Mr. Liversidge, thank you for the tip about the Royalist sash. When I stumbled upon a portrait of Richard Lovelace (1618-1657), I realized that the root of the sash was from an earlier period. http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/images/paintings/wrcc/large/ou_wrcc_285_large.jpg
Well, well, I've made a discovery (when is a discovery, a discovery?) I viewed the following slideshow about Duchess Mary Beatrice of Modena via youtube. At the 1:15/3:36 mark, there is a painting of Duchess Mary within a frame that looks to be remarkably similar to the frame of the painting under discussion. A Google search for the same image was not successful. Does anyone know the painting in the video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xOBRlNc0c4
Thats Mary of Modena (birth name Maria Beatrix d’Este), wife of James II (Studio of Willem Wissing)
http://www.artnet.com/artists/willem-wissing/portrait-of-mary-of-modena-wife-of-james-ii-Atm6bsrD1iSktvcwnmnCGw2
Ms. Kollman, thanks so much for locating the portrait in the video.
About the Royalist scarf/sash...
"In the early part of the war the Royalist wore red or crimson sashes and Parliamentarians orange, the colour of the Earl of Essex. Other colours were worn by soldiers in the regional armies according to the choice of their commanders. In September 1642 troopers were given 10s. each to buy a 'scarfe', which was a great deal of money considering that a superior quality horseman's sword cost only 8s. at that time. It may be that the sash was so important because a cavalrymen did not wear a uniform coat."
Ref. via Google eBooks
Title Soldiers of the English Civil War (2): Cavalry
2 : CAVALRY
Elite series
Volume 2 of Soldiers of the English Civil War
Illustrated by Angus McBride
Contributor John Tincey
Edition illustrated
Publisher Osprey Publishing, 1990
ISBN 0850459400, 9780850459401
Length 63 pages
Page 11
There is still a certain resemblance to both Charles II and James II, even though it appears to be neither of them, so is it possible that it could be a portrait of their younger brother Henry, Duke of Gloucester, who died at 20 in 1660?
As best I can tell, the sitter doesn't look like Prince Rupert or his brothers. The fleshy lips and prominent nose could be James, but the prominent dimple in his chin is missing here, and the eyes are not quite right for James. I suppose one could consider one of the illegitimate sons of Charles II, but none of the portraits I've seen of them are sufficiently like.
However, this still could be an indifferent or flattering likeness of James, though proving that is another matter.
This is a young (about 27) James Stuart, who actually could pass for a young Mick Jagger, but while there's some resemblance, I think our man is a different person. The eyes are just not the same.
The sitter is not Duke of Monmouth--not pretty enough. But he still looks like a Stuart. We need an expert on the bastards of Charles II.
My penultimate comment, by the way, is evidently missing a link to a portrait of a young James Stuart, which I cannot recall now. Here is one c. 1665 by Lely https://bit.ly/3ExbCoD and our man is not he.
This eight-year-old discussion is so old that many of the links are dead. In reviewing the various posts I can find none that have come up with compelling evidence for identifying our portrait as the future James II. In my opinion he does not represent him. Unless convincing evidence is forthcoming, the picture should remain as Portrait of a Gentleman.
The Art UK entry gives the date as 19th century, which (if correct) can only mean that this is a copy of a 17th C picture. Perhaps the entry should explicitly say something along those lines.
I would also suggest that the word "armour" appear somewhere in the Art UK entry, obviously for search purposes, either as part of the title or in the descriptive note or as a tag.
Here are some articles that mention this work. Please see the article from the ‘Nottingham Evening Post’ of 3 July 1878 in which the portrait donated by Earl Manvers was described as "apparently by a Nottingham painter". Was there a catalogue?
I've attached that catalogue entry from 1878.
https://tinyurl.com/ydhk9984
Here's a link to an article from 1914 that includes an image of the portrait being discussed.
http://www.nottshistory.org.uk/articles/tts/tts1914/hutchinson1.htm
In 1866, at an exhibition at the South Kensington Museum, the artist of this work wasn't named.
https://tinyurl.com/2a256tsx