Dress and Textiles, Portraits: British 16th and 17th C, Portraits: British 18th C, Scotland: Artists and Subjects 10 Is this Duncan Forbes of Culloden (1685–1747), Lord President of the Court of Session?

Bishop Duncan Forbes of Culloden
Topic: Subject or sitter

There are several portraits of Duncan Forbes of Culloden on Art UK.
https://artuk.org/discover/artworks/view_as/grid/search/works_auto:duncan-forbes-of-culloden

I have not found any reference to him being a bishop and perhaps there is no resemblance to the other portraits of Duncan Forbes, even considering the age difference. If the title of bishop is traditional, maybe it's worth considering that there has been confusion in the past. The sitter could then be, for example, Bishop Robert Forbes (1708–1775).

Al Brown, Entry reviewed by Art UK

10 comments

Christopher Foley,

The costume appears to be of the 1720's, which would tend to preclude Bishop Robert Forbes (b.1708) on apparent age grounds. Duncan Forbes was not a Bishop but a judge.His biographer described him thus "above six foot high, very streight and genteel in his body, which much enclined to slenderness; his face was smooth and majestick, his forehead large and graceful, his nose high; his eyes were blue and full of sweetness, and tho' very quick, yet rather grave than sparkling; the pupilla was charmingly intermixed with the white; his cheeks and chin were finely proportioned, his hands and arms were every way delightful.". Does the sitter in the portrait have blue eyes ? - hard to tell from the photograph.

John Forbes,

I have tracked Forbes family portraits for five decades.

This figure may well represent a person of that clan; the man’s nose and lips are indeed similar to documented portraits from the era. Yet his common wig, drab clothing, and lack of appurtenances signifying wealth, rank, or office do not indicate a man of importance. That he might have been a baron, Bishop, or judge remains unlikely.

Perhaps a through cleaning may reveal more information. Until then,
“Very possibly a member of the Forbes family” is fair.

I would discourage, though, further attempts to make a specific identification. The Forbes clan is enormous; tracking them is made doubly difficult by their constant repetiton of only a very few first names.

Trying to sort the dozens of Johns, Williams, and Jameses is mind boggling and leads to nothing but frustration and futility.

Believe me, I have tried!

John Hazard Forbes / Thomasville, Georgia

Three contributions were made to this discussion, “Is this Duncan Forbes of Culloden (1685–1747), Lord President of the Court of Session?”, in the first week of the discussion in June 2019, since when silence, I suspect because the question has been answered: this portrait does not represent Duncan Forbes of Culloden, Lord President of the Court of Session.

And if we take John Forbes’ advice, it will be problematic trying to come up with a convincing identification. Time to close this discussion, I suggest.

Jacinto Regalado,

The entry should specify the venue where the portrait is held, since ANGUSalive is an umbrella term. It is preferable to use British School here rather than unknown artist, which would be implied.

Jacinto Regalado,

The picture may not be quite good enough for William Aikman (1682-1731), but it could be by a follower or someone in his circle. Aikman was initially intended for the law. Compare below:

https://bit.ly/3tzQg4Z

https://bit.ly/33nbE2S

"Style of" William Aikman seems tolerably reasonable.





Marcie Doran,

My first attachment compares this work to the two William Aikman (1682-1731) works in Jacinto’s comment: 'John Lumsden of Blanearn' and 'George Watson (1654–1723)'.

My second composite compares it to a work by John Smibert (1688-1751) at the Museum of Fine Arts Boston.

'Judge Edmund Quincy'
John Smibert
1737
https://tinyurl.com/2p8fhmyr

I'm wondering if the Smibert work could help to date this painting.

Marcie's comparison convincingly demonstrates Aikman's livelier touch. The portrait under discussion is by a lesser hand than Aikman (or Smibert) and will be difficult to identify.

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