Completed British 19th C, except portraits, British 20th C, except portraits, Continental European after 1800, South East England: Artists and Subjects 15 comments Is this 'Sunset View' by Daniel Sherrin?
Photo credit: Sheffield Museums
Could this be by Daniel Sherrin (1869–1940)? See for instance his 'Sunset near Canterbury, Kent' in Museums Sheffield: https://artuk.org/discover/artworks/sunset-near-canterbury-kent-71861/
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It certainly could be, but doesn't Sherrin normally sign his works quite prominently. I suppose the picture could have been cut down at some point. A view of the back of the painting and any labels could help.
This Sheffield painting is on panel, rare if not unknown for Sherrin, whose paintings on Art UK at least are on canvas, or in one instance on 'board', an ambiguous term. They are also significantly larger.
Sherrin's style is somewhat amateurish, though with an impression of high finish. In so far as the limited resolution of Art UK allows, this small oil suggests to me a more sophisticated French influence. Given the evidence to hand I think it unikely to be by Sherrin.
I agree completely with Andrew's comments in regard to this painting. Almost without exception Sherrin painted on to canvas and his work was geared to the department store market in the UK in the late 19th century and early 20th century, underlining the fact that the quality of his work did not normally reach exhibition standard. The Museums Sheffield painting looks to be much better than that and I support the idea that it is probably French, possibly from the final quarter of the 19th century. Unless anyone is able to shed light on this I suggest that the discussion should be wrapped up quite quickly.
This discussion is now also linked to the 'Continental European after 1800' group.
In my opinion this work is unlikely to be by Daniel Sherrin although the subject matter and time of day was certainly favoured by this artist. I may be incorrect here, but the works I have seen (and there have been many), by Sherrin tend to be on a much larger scale and then on canvas rather than panel. The low horizon suggests Dutch influence perhaps or alternatively Northern French.
Thank you Clive for the benefit of your opinion and experience in regard to Daniel Sherrin. Unless there is any further comment in favour of attributing this work to Sherrin I suggest that the discussion be repositioned to ask 'Is this sunset view a 19th century painting by a European artist and if so who was the painter?'
Although I have some reservations at this early stage, I would like to respectively suggest either Hippolyte-Camille Delpy or Charles Pierre (aka) Karl Daubigny. Both often painted on small sized panel, however I would have expected both of these artists to have signed and in the case of Delpy, dated their work. Additionally, I believe that this painting is not quite up to the standard we would expect from either which is a problem. The subject matter and style, although consistent with their work, however suggests maybe the hand of a follower. Other opinions most welcome.
Thanks Clive for helping to move the discussion forward. I too feel that this picture is likely to be by an artist associated with the later Barbizon painters but not of the top rank. I shall be recommending that the discussion should be re-positioned away from the suggestion that the work may be by Daniel Sherrin.
The body of opinion is that this painting has no connection with Daniel Sherrin and as such I consider that the discussion should be re-positioned in order to assist the Collection in identifying the artist. My feeling all along is that this work is likely to be French and connected to an artist belonging to, or influenced by, the Barbizon School. As such I believe the discussion should come under the guidance of the groups for Continental European post 1800 (it is already) and Yorkshire and the Humber: Artists and Subjects (due to the Museums Sheffield ownership). The revised discussion could be headed ''Is this sunset view a 19th century painting by a French artist and if so who was the painter?'. Thank you.
Don't rule out Belgian Barbizon followers
Thank you Martin, that is very helpful.
Is Benjamin Leader a possibility (see for example https://artuk.org/discover/artworks/evening-on-the-severn-52629/ and https://artuk.org/discover/artworks/on-the-severn-71936/, and some of his works are on panel) or are they both just following the same compositional cliché?
Fair point, but I believe we have two problems with Leader as a possible author. Firstly, from my experience he usually signs his work and secondly, the image suggests that, albeit of small size, it is after all on panel and would accordingly have been of finer quality. Having said this I appreciate that the image may not do the picture justice.
Taking Grant's earlier recommendation into account, we will bring this discussion to a close and open a new one with a different focus.