Completed North West England: Artists and Subjects 9 Could this work be by David Payne and of Haddon Hall?

Topic: Subject or sitter

see David Payne's painting in Stockport Art Gallery 'A scene on the Wye, near Haddon Hall, Derbyshire'

and Arthur Wilson, 'Haddon Hall, Derbyshire'

Martin Hopkinson, Entry reviewed by Art UK

Completed, Outcome

Alice Read,

The title has now been amended to 'A View of the South East Elevation of Haddon Hall in Derbyshire from the River Wye' and the artist to 'David Payne, c.1844–1891 (attributed to)'.

This change will appear on the Your Paintings website by the end of June 2014. Thank you to all for participating in this discussion. To those viewing this discussion for the first time, please see below for all comments that led to this conclusion.


Bruce Trewin,

Looking up from the river the bulk of the building should be seen to the right of the tower, not to the left, as shown in the painting. Also the tower is much higher than the other building mass. But as a painter, I know how frequently massing is shifted for artistic effect and composition. Difficult to say.

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Paul Kettlewell,

Is Augustus Oakley Deacon a possibility? The attached cutting is from an article in the Derby Mercury dated 24 Sep 1890. There is also a painting titled "Gardens of Haddon Hall" by Deacon.

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Amanda Draper,

I've sent a link of this conversation over to Haddon Hall for their consideration.

Amanda Draper,

Response from Vikki Stronge of Hadden Hall:
"The painting is most definitely of Haddon Hall, painted from the River Wye, facing towards the South East elevation, with the Eagle/Peveril Tower to the back right, with the North West Tower to the left of the painting. I think the artist has used a bit of 'creative licence' with the chimneys, adding much larger sets of group chimneys than we actually have."

If we are agreed that the artist is David Payne, I'll refer this back to the PCF as a concluded discussion. Thanks to Martin for spotting the painting in the first instance and for all contributions.

Amanda Draper,

No further comments have been added to this discussion in the past week, so we can consider it concluded.

In summary:
The painting style, subject matter and canvas size indicates that it is most likely to be the work of David Payne but, without a signature or supporting provenance, the case has not yet wholly been made for a firm attribution. However, the scene has been clearly identified as Haddon Hall.

The following recommendation is subject to the approval of The Atkinson in Southport, who own the painting.

Artist: Attributed to David Payne

Subject: A View of the South East Elevation of Haddon Hall in Derbyshire from the River Wye